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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2009.04.12 00:22:00 -
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Just read page 4 update:
covops cloak + immunity to bubbles... yeah another "cant kill me combo". Can we get cloak counters soon please? Or do we need to blob gates + spam jetcans and drones to catch those ships?
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2009.04.13 10:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
I believe if you are giving it the ability to warp cloaked and are giving it things related to tech 2 cruiser hulls, the Ishtar is one of those hulls. A 125m3 drone bandwidth option should be investigated. I know a lot of you will say "overpowered" but the Ishtar is not overpowered.
So please give us this option.
ROTFL.
Add also mini doomsday device for good measure...
Ishtar is already one of best HACs even in its current cpu-gimped form. Adding the ability to warp cloaked will make it way overpowered compared to both ishtar and... pilgrim. You are actually creating gallente pilgrim with more dps.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2009.04.13 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Polinus
check the BASE agility of them both. The immune to warp bubble one has a VERY bad agility before the bonus.
It doesnt matter. All ships can warp in 10 seconds doing MWD-warp (it even works when you cloak after hitting MWD). So anything above this value is redundant.
And in current state of game it is impossible to catch cloaking ship within 10 seconds. Even tried to catch plated recon without using dictors? its (almost) impossible. The almost part is either bad luck from cloaker pilot (he lands near other ship thus cant cloak) or just objects spam around the gate (be it cans, corpses, wrecks, drones etc).
Creating ship that can evade bubbles you are de facto re-creating uncatchable cloaker situation with one small exception. There is no way to catch it if you want. Period. He either needs to get unlucky or you need to spam whole gate.
The story about "MWDing ceptor to decloak before he warps" is full of balls. Like i said above: 10 seconds from 0 to warp on any ship. Now lets see: ship clicks warp and spams cloak. 2 seconds before you see his position on screen, 3-4 seconds before yor ships starts moving there. Next 3seconds (so 6-7s total) till you are exactly at his spot (and thats with 4km/s ceptor who instantly took correct curse). You decloak him at 6th or 7th second of his 10 second warp. You need another 1-2 seconds to even start locking (server side delay). 1 second to lock and... another one for scrambler to kick in. At best you can hope to lock him and see him warp. And above situation happens when you are absolutely ready for him. BUT: if he uses mwd-warp trick then he already moved from his spot a bit thus ceptor has even worse chance of finding him...
IMO: stupid idea. Very stupid.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Eve
Have I just read the patch notes correctly.....
You can fit a cov ops cloak
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Be immune to bubbles?
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um... so how do we catch one?
By using exploits. Convo spam, drone spam, can spam, corpse spam around gate. The more the better. Other than that? Nope, no counters available in game.
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